Ever wonder what a game designer does behind the scenes? I thought it would be fun to share what kind of stuff I wrestle with when I’m up to my elbows in grease.

One of the four titles I’ve been working on last month is Hundred Kings War. It’s a 2-5 player strategy game that feels sort of like a streamlined Game of Thrones. We’re starting to move forward on development and art, and I’m hoping to have it ready for a Kickstarter this fall.

The playtests still continue to be really fun. The only rough edge I’ve found is an occasional end-game scenario where there is one player who has no chance of winning and ceases having fun. These tests are far outnumbered by the games where there’s a tense, epic, last-turn armageddon. It seems to be a timing issue, rather than a consistent flaw. But those edge cases bother me, and I want to fix them.

The raw mechanics are: each player starts with 30 VP. At the end of every turn, all players lose VP depending on their board control of certain scoring areas. Partially-hidden random card draws at the beginning of each turn determine which scoring areas are checked at the end of the turn. Zero VP players continue to play. It ends up being a 3-4 turn game, and each scoring card shows up one or two times.

There are two ways to win:

  • Emperor Win: if the lead player has twice the VP of the next player at the end of scoring.
  • Usurper Win: if everyone “zeros out” at the end, whoever has the most total raw board control wins.

In an evenly matched game, the endings are always tense, and theres always a sense that you can grab the win. Most games ended up with a couple of players pushing for an Emperor win, with a couple more players trying to disrupt things and grab a Usurper win. But we had enough cases where a player would clearly be out of the running by the end of the third turn, and have to sit through the fourth turn as a spoiler. Those cases sucked.

First Fix

The first attempt at a fix was an Accelerated Ending. Basically: when a player who is “zeroed out” loses VP, that loss is applied to all other non-zero players.

This cut down on but did not completely eliminate the fourth turn spoiler scenario. Sometimes the extra penalty was enough to cause an Emperor win where there wouldn’t have been one before. But if the VP leaders were close, it didn’t.


Next Fixes

I’ve come up with one more (untested) set of changes, that I think might do the trick. I might not even need the extra zeroed-out penalty. The idea is:

Restrict the game to three-turns only. If there is no Emperor at the end of the third turn, determine the Usurper win. Four turn games aren’t always bad, but I don’t think we lose anything by getting rid of them.

Base the Usurper win on points from regional (scoring card) board control, instead of total board control. I.e. instead of counting the 32 influence points I have on the board, I would get one point for fulfilling the “Control” scoring conditions for The North (a scoring card). This should make the Usurper win more volatile, as its not just a matter of raw success at board control. It will now hinge on whatever board spaces are vital for the scoring conditions.

Alter the scoring card lifecycle. This is kind of hard to explain, so I’ll use pictures.

Currently there are nine scoring cards. Every turn, two are played face up, and two are played face down. Each player gets to peek at a random face down card. Because 4 cards per turn doesn’t divide evenly into 9 cards in the deck, you end up with some interesting overlap:


In a three-turn game, there’s significant luck involved in that third turn. Board control is cumulative from turn to turn, so if you happened to invest in the spaces that are part of the scoring card that got drawn, you had an advantage over the person who had invested in the spaces on the scoring cards that never got played.

With a fixed number of turns, I want to change the scoring card lifecycle so that every card gets triggered the same number of times. In this case, the last turn’s scoring cards will all be known by process of elimination, so they might as well be face up. A few examples:


As you can see from just these three example models, there are several dials to turn, and several ways to have a fixed-turn game structure that gets rid of the original scoring problems. I’m going to try some of these and see what happens.

If you’re interested in Hundred Kings War, like our Facebook page to stay tuned for more info!

Thoughts? Any other ideas for attempted fixes for this? Let me know!

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Stephen DeBaun

Game Designer/Publisher at Trip West Games

Stephen DeBaun is a board game designer by day and software developer by night. Check out his latest title, Ars Victor: The One-Hour Wargame.

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  1. Luke Laurie on July 14, 2014

    Fascinating Stephen- love seeing the wheels turning and the sausage being made. I’d love to play a game that could succeed in being a streamlined game of thrones. I like the gameplay of that game, but it can be brutally long and drawn out. I’m interested in hearing more about your approach to having VP starting at 30 and being lost from there. (Is there no gain?) I’m interested in how that affects players psychologically. The entire game is about cutting/reducing one’s losses?

  2. Steve DeBaun on July 14, 2014

    Yeah, I have similar issues with GoT, which is what inspired this.

    Correct, there are no ways that VP (I call it Prestige in the game) increases.

    And it works great. It builds tension over the course of the game, as everyone’s scores drop — some like a feather, and others like a brick. It focuses players on knocking down the leader’s VP to stave off an Emperor win. And it gives a sense of the toll and cost of an extended civil war, which contrasts nicely with the expansion of individual players’ board control. By the end, you feel like dogs fighting over the last scraps of an empire.

  3. Karolus on July 28, 2014

    hi Stephen,

    Wow, a streamlined GoT? I’m in! I also have issues with GoT, though I really like the Diplomacy-like orders.

    A couple of comments:
    1) very true a civil war should be about the destruction of other players’ positions, not avoiding them like in GoT, where the one who sits outs can win by grabiing those last couple of strongholds.
    2) have you checked a couple of interesting designs that in some ways match your ideas:
    – Byzantio, fairly recent KS’ed which has an hidden area control agenda (you secretely pick which areas you want to score as end VPS and other can guess them at game’s end to score espionnage points if they guess right)
    – 1666 Great Fire of London, recently re-released by Pandasaurus Games, which has diminishing points and where you direct the fire to districts in the City of London where your opponents have buildings (and thus lose them to the fire to lose VPs).

    Best of luck with your continuing design!

    PS. any chance you’re on G+ as well as FB (which I’m not on)?

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